This is the same kinda stereotype some ignorant 240SX guys make about the Z and it's weight. But anyway according to Wikipedia the Supra's curb weight is 3515lbs and for the TT Z... I've had trouble but i have found it ranging from 3480-3533(an article in sportcompactcarweb.com) So they weigh pretty much the same. Then there is the fact that the Supra came with bigger brakes. I don't remember any magazines complaining about handling on the supra. From my observations the supra would win on the road course stock vs stock mainly b/c of brakes...no? Personally from everything i have seen I do firmly believe the Z has superior handling, and offcourse styling....otherwise i love cars and i like the supra, just wouldn't ever buy one b/c of the outrageous price.